pixman83 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Al Gore certainly isn't a scientist! At least a weatherman has his entire working life as experience. I think his understanding of the subject would be greater than both of ours. The 30000 number comes from those scientists who physically sent a signed petition to petitionproject. org to reject the claims of the Kyoto treaty. Small doses of CO2, you mean like breathing? Or do you mean the fact that the human generated CO2 is about 1/20 of the amount that is naturally occurring?

pixman83 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

They are considered very biased, they've been sued over it. They freely admit that they would have no problem burning a bible, but won't even consider burning the qur'an. They created that report because things were getting so bad that they were in denial about it and didn't actually see themselves as biased. They created the report because they had too. FOX is biased, yet they are still the most watched source of news in the US. So do they really need such a memo? I prefer Googlenews.

pixman83 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The media control which science is presented to the public, this directly influences their response. The media isn't asking to prove a hoax, just create one. Hearst and the USS Maine ring a bell? Gore says that global warming is caused by CO2 and then proceeds to millions of carbon credits via companies he owns stock in. If CO2 doesn't cause global warming, he is making fraudulent claims to make money. He is being sued for fraud, plain and simple.

bluezinc (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Also, I checked online to see if I could research who these "30,000 scientists were". Turns out THERE AREN'T 30,000 SCIENTISTS SUING AL GORE!!! There's just one man, the founder of the Weather Channel, who is suing him. Let me remind you, he is NOT a scientist. He thinks global warming is fake because he doesn't understand the impact CO2 has on the atmosphere, even in small doses. His opinion is based on nothing but speculation on his part, even he admits that.

bluezinc (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The BBC is regarded as biased by some, like any organization being tasked with taking all the current news of the world and shrinking the stories down into 30 minutes or less would be. However, they are distinctly regarded as having much less bias than any other news channel and they have dedicated themselves to keeping their reporting as objective as possible. You said it yourself, the BBC commissioned that report. Fox or MSNBC would never commission a report to check their bias.

bluezinc (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The media controls the news, not the science. The media has never once gone to a scientist and said, "hey, prove this thing is a hoax so that we can make up something to be afraid about" If they did then the scientific community would have them jailed for fraud, the worst accusation you can throw at a scientist. Gore is being sued for his documentary. The science isn't being argued with, it's the way Gore presented it: "NYC underwater" etc. Also, those werent scientists, that was the church.

pixman83 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Something to think about BBC's standard from timesonline regarding BBC bias: "THE BBC is institutionally biased, an official report will conclude this week. The year-long investigation, commissioned by the BBC, has found the corporation particularly partial in its treatment of single-issue politics such as climate change, poverty, race and religion." As far as I'm concerned BBC is as unbiased as ABC, CNN, CBS, MSNBC, FOX, Al Jazeera, etc. They ALL suck.

pixman83 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"The media doesn't control the scientists..." Wanna make a bet? The media controls the majority of the news that people see every day. When they consistently put an issue, idea, theory, or plan on the front page it gets attention. When people get concerned the government and scientific community react. That is not the case at all. Heard about the 30,000 scientists suing Al Gore? The majority also once thought that the world was flat, so the majority has little bearing on what is correct.

bluezinc (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Listen, everyone on here, there's a great documentary about climate change produced by the BBC. As you know, the BBC is regarded as the standard for accuracy and unbiased reporting. The documentary series is in 3 parts and it's called "BBC Earth The Climate Wars". Out of all the climate documentaries I've seen, that one is the best as far as it's coverage goes. It explains all the major debates and major bits of evidence for and against climate change.

bluezinc (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Umm, I say it because climate change wasn't significantly looked at until the United States Government assigned the JASONs to study it in the late 70's. The media doesn't control the scientists, especially not JASON. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community, including former deniers, admit that global warming is real, the debate is over about that. There are still those that say mankind has nothing to do with it, but they are the minority. The majority recognizes a human role.